The better system for citizenship between Athens and Rome was the Romans system. In Rome it didn't matter what gender you are you were able to be a citizen. If you were a slave then you couldn't be a citizen no matter what. In Athens the only way you could have been a citizen would be if you are a native adult. People in Athens had a hard time becoming citizens and if they weren't they had to be slaves or work for others. In Document B it states that “it is the poor which mans the fleet and has brought the state her power, and the steersmen and the boatswain's and the shipmasters and the lookout-men and the shipwrights – these have brought the state her power much rather than the … best-born”. That means to me that if you weren't born into royalty you were doomed for the rest of your life to work for someone, or to be a slave. It also helps my claim by stating in Document A that you could be a citizen in Rome no matter what you were a male,female, child, or etc. you could become a citizen and live a normal right. If you weren't in the wealthy class the whole place pretty much forgot about you …show more content…
In Document D it states that “And the law is as follows: Each citizen wrote the name of the man who in his opinion had the greatest power to destroy the democracy; and the man who got the largest number of ostraka was obliged to go into exile from his native land for a period of ten years”. I think that if you were guilty and no one voted for you then you were a free man and the non guilty was sentenced. That justice system is messed up because if people hated you then they would say it was you maybe because of a personal vendetta. Also in Document C it stated that “In other words, the Athenians were more stingy with their citizenship. The Romans more freely gave it away. But they gave it away in measured amounts”. The Romans did give citizenship to a lot of people, but they only gave out a
Camille Sicat #26 3/16/16 Writing/Social Studies Power of the People: Athens vs. Rome Essential Question: Citizenship in Athens and Rome: Which Was the Better System? Prior to the idea of people being “citizens” of a nation, people were subjects, with no rights and forced to serve under the iron fist of their ruler. The idea of people having rights and responsibilities to their country originated in Athens, Greece circa 500 B.C. (Background Essay). Rome, however, far surpassed the Greeks in their social contract theory of citizenship (Background Essay) for the following reasons: 1) More people were considered citizens i.e. females and sons of freed slaves; 2)
Pericles, who was Greek, can be biased in his statement because as a leader, he needs to win the people’s support. Therefore, he can only say the glories of Athens. Document 5 supports Document 4’s statement. Document 5 talks about the details of the Athenian government. It tells the reader “No one remained in power long enough to entrench himself”
The citizens would elect Praetors, these were judges that ruled in the judicial branch and would be voted for each year(AR). Usually only the wealthy Praetors would be elected leaving out the middle and lower class citizens of Rome(AR).Today in The U.S., people can vote on issues that are addressed within America and are also able to vote on who is elected as the president no matter what financial state they are in. In Rome, the lower class citizens also known as the plebeians, were forced into the army and were furious at the fact that
No i don't think Athens was truly democratic because, all the rules of ancient Athens are very unfair with all their rules and rights for all citizens. The first reason is because Our constitution favors many instead of the few, this is also why it's called a democracy. This basically means that if you are not wetly than they won't treat us the same as wealthy people. And they only let men vote which means that only 12% in ancient Athens can vote. In Athens no one had freedom of thought and expression either.
In most ancient societies near the time of the Roman Empire, there were many travelers, explorers, laborers, traders, leaders, and workers that would travel to different parts of the world for different businesses and fulfillment. They were not granted the same rights as other people when they came into Rome, which makes the legislation of citizenship unfair to them. Not only this, but most ancient societies had large populations of women, too However, the text states: “Both men and women were citizens in the republic, but only men could vote”. This law proves misogynistic, as women are not guaranteed voting rights, unlike men. Given that women's voting rights are not guaranteed, unlike those of men, this statute is sexist, therefore,
Molly Plenge Professor Mann WHO 1012 02 October 2017 Hypocrisy in Athens According to Plato, the four virtues that make up the perfect state are courage, wisdom, justice, and moderation. All are classic examples of how hippocratic the Athenian democracy was; but the most deceiving virtue would be justice. The Athenians took pride in their established democracy, where all men were created equal. This of course, doesn’t apply to the thousands of slaves, foreign born residents, and women.
1. Introduction In William Shakespeare’s play, Julius Caesar, Gaius Julius Caesar is described by the character of Mark Antony as being, “…the noblest Roman of them all…” (Shakespeare Julius Caesar 5.5.67.231). Julius Caesar has been represented in history as a multi-faceted Roman leader, excelling in the military, social and political spheres of Roman life.
When in Rome Rome has a better system than Athens in my opinion. Athens citizens have more responsibility and rights then Rome. Rome has more of a family oriented style of citizenship. Athens and rome both honored citizenship in their own ways equally.
The Ancient Greeks were affected in many ways by the things around and in the country called Greece. The geography of the land has had a great influence on Greece and the inhabitants. Throughout the history of Greece, there came more effects to the people who lived there. Some of these effects on the Ancient Greek civilization were positive and some were negative. Most of these effects were beneficial to the Greeks.
I would like to educate the masses on a matter of frequent debate. This is none other then Athens vs Sparta, and I can say the thorough research and facts have lead me to concluded that Sparta is a much better city-state then Athens. Sparta is better then Athens because of its respect of women, more equal school system, integrity of government, treatment of slaves, and superior military. First of all, women were given far more rights than in Athens. First of all, Women in Sparta could own there own land, participate in politics and the olympics among other things.
Comparing Athens and Rome could also be thought of as comparing a flea, and an elephant. They have many differences, but are also surprisingly similar. So, who had the better system? The Roman Republic had a more established government, because citizenship was based on behavior, people had more liberties and freedoms, and Rome had a more secure government. Rome had a more established system of government because, their citizenship was based on how someone acts around and towards others, and their property.
Within itself, it consisted of 60-80 million people. Rome had a better system than Athens because of their process of citizenship, their citizens’ contributions society, and amazing government system. Unlike Athens, the Roman Republic granted citizenship for all free native-born adults and children. Document A shows us that Athens only accepted free, native-born adult males as citizens. Some may argue that they were more protective,
This group of people only included white male citizens, meaning that slaves, foreign born residents, women and some men who hadn’t obtained citizenship couldn’t vote (Doc D). This completely contradicts the all-inclusive concept of direct democracy that the Athenian government preached so frequently. To have a powerful and lasting empire with great prosperity you must have a series of strong leaders. The period of prosperity in Athens was so short lived because they only had one strong leader, Pericles. After Pericles died Athens could not defeat Sparta in the Peloponnesian War and also couldn’t hold the truce that was signed in 421 BC which allowed Sparta to gain overall victory in the
Continuing on, legislators/magistrates and council people should be elected according to merit. Such officers should have worth in character; otherwise they can do great damage to the community. Governments are divided them into three true forms: kingly rule, aristocracy, and constitutional government, and three corresponding perversions- tyranny, oligarchy, and democracy. Again we see the combining of two forms of government as Aristotle’s preferred route as he praises a third form combining aristocracy and oligarchy used by the Carthaginians to choose particularly their highest level magistrates placing weight both on merit and wealth with merit being the wisdom and knowledge to govern and wealth being the freedom from easy corruption and
In “….”, author M discusses the definition of Athenian citizenship, how did it ……. And……… The author starts by defining the word citizenship in English according to Webster, and Marshall, and in Greek. According to Webster citizenship is the status of being a citizen of a country, which the author refers as potentially legal or passive as person can hold the status of citizenship of a country but does not act as a member in the community. However according to Marshall, citizenship depends on persons’ actions, as person must be full member of the community to be called a citizen.